Judder

May. 18th, 2014 10:03 pm
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For the beautiful (goddammit, why do you have to be cute as well as everything else!) [livejournal.com profile] ephermeralk,, who is sick, working really long hours, has a crazy Winston to take care of but still managed to send me some beta'd BB today, because she is fucking awesome!

She wasn't sure what 'judder' was. This advert from a few years ago doesn't explain it at all really but from now on whenever anyone says 'judder' you'll think of this. Also it's cool (haha)



Also, anyone have the foggiest what the US equivalent of 'camp' is? I need a word but not a derogatory one.

Inbox at 376 : ) x

Date: 2014-05-18 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ephermeralk.livejournal.com
LOL. whoever did that was on CRAZY DRUGS. I'm still not sure I get it...maybe one has to drink first and then watch the video?

I wish I could be of better help with British sayings! I'll I've got usually is...I have no idea what that means, lol. And then I feel unhelpful. Still, you're so, so welcome ♥ I do hope it's useful.

YAY! ALMOST 1/2 way through your inbox. YOU CAN DO IT!!! *cheerleads*

Date: 2014-05-18 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
Isn't it lovely!
Judder is kinda to violently shake or vibrate, like if you have a chill or have that 'someone walking over you grave' feeling, or you drink a really cold Scandinavian drink.

No, no! Saying you don't know what it is, is exactly the thing needed, coz if you don't, there's potentially a few more people (y'know, a continents worth) that won't know either. Figuring out the right words is my job. Getting better and keeping both Winston's ears attached to his head is yours, do that.

Also I'm thinking about extending the morning BJ scene...just thinking about it : ) x

Date: 2014-05-18 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ephermeralk.livejournal.com
oooh. you mean SHUDDER :P

heheh :)

Winston is sleeping. Ears still in tact. I'm considering an afternoon nap.

hahah. You know I'm *always* in favor of porn extensions[*cough-DO IT-*cough*], but, you know. you're just getting my stream of consciousness in comment form. Which is always porn-directed. Feel free to ignore my always desperate pleas for more porn. I know that you have an early posting date too!

and yes. I'm a fan of flaming in that context. Not derogatory, but less big-word sounding than flamboyant.

Date: 2014-05-18 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
Judder is a little different, less shoulders, more whole body, more violent...moms shudder, trucks judder...words are stupid.
judder |ˈjədər| verb [ no obj. ] chiefly Brit.
(esp. of something mechanical) shake and vibrate rapidly and with force: the steering wheel juddered in his hand.
noun - an instance of rapid and forceful shaking and vibration: the car gave a judder.
DERIVATIVES juddery - adjective


It's kinda fun clicking on your notes not knowing whether I'm going to get a "," or a "OMG Why did the porn stop!" You made me laugh a lot this evening.
I still get really uncomfortable when it comes to the porning so I do think I cut it short so I don't have to talk about anything in too much detail.
I'll see on the final draft whether I can add anything without forcing it.

Glad to hear that Winston has all his bits still attached.

I'm off to bed too as it's nearly tomorrow.

Thank you so much for your help with this Hunny : ) xx

Date: 2014-05-18 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ephermeralk.livejournal.com
also: after consulting with google, and relooking at the phrase, I'd say "flamboyant," or "flaming"

Date: 2014-05-18 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
Flaming...I like flaming x

Date: 2014-05-18 10:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fannishliss.livejournal.com
Actually, in the US we do use the term "camp" though, there is also something a bit humorous about camp sensibility. Camp is larger than life, and associated with drag though not always.

A good example of camp would be in Blazing Saddles when they are filming "the French Mistake". The dance in the French Mistake is "high camp" ...

I would think camp and flamboyant would be slightly different, because camp has that humor aspect on top of the flamboyant (which is about personal presentation and style) or flaming (which is about affect and attitude). Both flamboyant and flaming are words we use in the US to describe men who embrace performative aspects of gay culture... whereas camp is more about a more pervasive attitude toward culture and can be performed by men or women... like in the article where it mentions Dusty Springfield, or in Blazing Saddles again when Madeline Kahn sings her song about being So Tired. :D

So in Rocky Horror, the whole movie would be camp, whereas Frank would be flamboyant.

The two cents of Dr. Language Liss.

Also, Mr. Language Husband would like to add that "flaming" is sometimes used in a derogatory sense, but I think only by dumbasses. ... We think "flamboyant" is the more neutral of the two terms.
Edited Date: 2014-05-18 10:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-05-19 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
Yeah we have the expression "flaming queer" which isn't particularly nice but...ugh, translation is hard.

Camp here is sort of the same, effeminate with a soupçon of kitsch. But you don't have to be gay to be camp and not all gay men are camp.

Crap, I'll just fudge it together. No-one'll notice. It'll be fine : / x

Date: 2014-05-18 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anactoria.livejournal.com
I loved that advert! (It's a shame Metz was gross.)

Date: 2014-05-19 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
It's one of my faves : ) Never tasted it...thankfully, it seems! x

Date: 2014-05-18 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skeletncloset.livejournal.com
Depends what you mean by "camp". LIke a campground? Places where you gather around a fire?

Date: 2014-05-18 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ephermeralk.livejournal.com
Lol. That's the only definition I knew, but apparently in England it has gay connotations! Who knew? (not me, obviously).

Date: 2014-05-19 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skeletncloset.livejournal.com
Dude, I wrote a little for John/Dean and a little for the mouth sequel and it feels like I'm not getting anything done because my focus is so unfocused.

Date: 2014-05-19 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
No, like effeminate and kitsch...like Liberace. Although he was pretty sparkly and I can see a bunch of guys in shorts gathering around him of an evening : ) x

Date: 2014-05-18 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skeletncloset.livejournal.com
I've used the word "judder" in porn before. I imagine a stuttering bounce?

Date: 2014-05-19 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
YES! Exactly! x

Date: 2014-05-18 10:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-05-19 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thestarkat.livejournal.com
I second 'flaming' for 'camp' but it is used in Canada and the US sometimes. Generally more as the adjective 'campy'.

I think I had to look up the word 'judder' previously because I'd never come across it before.

Date: 2014-05-19 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
I'm going to shoehorn them both in as I don't want to rewrite that whole section.

Judder is such a good word! Although I think I esp. like it now as I always hear/say it with the accent from the ad : ) x

Date: 2014-05-19 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milly-gal.livejournal.com
Still don't have audio on the p.c of DOOm, so I'm sat here sulking ;)

Feel better [livejournal.com profile] ephermeralk *hugs* working too hard and feeling icky suck bum.

And WHOOT, half way through the inbox, go you!

Date: 2014-05-19 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
Is it fixable? Did you take the thing apart like you said you were going to?

"...feeling icky suck bum." That...well...someone needs to J2 that! x

Date: 2014-05-20 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milly-gal.livejournal.com
We took it to pieces, it needs a new card but it's just not something I can do at the mo, the machine's too old to benefit from new parts *sulks* ;)

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