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I just read an article about a court case and I just...



So this woman meets a guy online and he's nice and they want to meet for sexy times but he's really worried about his appearance as he's recovering from lots of surgery for a brain tumour and has mobility issues that he's self consccious about. But after being reassured by a mututal girl friend that he's a nice guy, she goes to the hotel, puts on a blindfold and lies down on the blossom strewn bed. The guy comes out of the bathroom, sexy times happen, everybody's happy.

Except...

One time they're doing the do and for some reason the woman takes off her blindfold. And who should be standing there but the mutual friend - I'm assuming still wearing the "prosthetic penis" – who encouraged her to do this ridiculous thing.

And the friend says... "It's not what you think."

No. No, I really think it is. What on earth else could it possibly be?!



Just when you think you've heard everything, the capacity of human beings to do the most bizarre, stupid things never fails to surprise.


In other news, I was seriously impressed that I managed to do the dishes last night while under the influence. I was, however, surprised to find a ladder in my hallway, and that I answered a few comments* too! I should drink more often : ) Clearly, I get stuff done : )

Your faces...I love them ♥

*apologies for any overt dorkishness while hammered : /

Date: 2015-09-09 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supernutjapan.livejournal.com
What, she had a crush on her friend and was worried of being rejected so she put herself online as a guy?!

Or she just wanted to try gay sex?

If it went to court, I guess it didn't turn out very well for her either way :P

Date: 2015-09-09 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
I think probably the former. It's a bit elaborate if you're a bit bi-curious. Mind you the whole thing just sounds totally unfeasible to me...and yet...

The trial is happening now. I'm assuming she's being prosecuted for rape as that's totally what it was. I don't care how besotted with someone you are, this kind of deception is just awful.

I was just thinking that if I wrote that, I'd have to tag it as crack as it sounds so ridiculous! Like, who would think they could possibly get away with that, and who would really fall for something so suspect? But then RL does seemed to be weirder than fiction more than I'm really comfortable with : ) xx

Date: 2015-09-10 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supernutjapan.livejournal.com
It's a difficult case, I think. I mean, the sex itself was consensual, even though she didn't realize it was her friend instead of some poor guy who had brain surgery. And she did consent to being blindfolded so in that sense she consented to having sex with someone she didn't recognize. This was the second time, too, right? So obviously she enjoyed it the first time and wanted more. It's more a problem of being deceived into thinking she was having sex with someone else, and I don't know if that qualifies as rape by law but it's a bit different in my mind.

The situation does remind me of how teenage girls might write letters to their friends as secret admirers, pretending to be a guy so that they can make their friend happy or possibly so that they can express their gay feelings for their girlfriend. This case takes that one step further doesn't it?

Either way it is a pretty bold/crazy thing to do. Either she was lovesick or things just got a bit out of hand.

Date: 2015-09-10 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
No, she consented to sex with the guy not her friend. It's like saying your boyfriend calling you up for a bootie call but then his mate turns up at the door and expects you to go through with it coz you said yes on the phone.

I've heard of this thing...it has a name...I can't remember...where frat guys take a girl home and want to fuck her doggie style, then when she turns around, another guy takes his place and does the deed while the original guy runs around to the outside of the building to wave at her from the window. It's rape...giving consent to one person isn't a licence for just anybody to fuck them.

I do wonder if it started out like that, her lovesick friend wanting to get closer to her, and it just got out of hand.

I do wonder if it being a female perpetrator clouds the issue. If it were a guy instead, I don't think it would feel like such a grey area xx

Date: 2015-09-10 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supernutjapan.livejournal.com
OK, you can just ignore this if you don't feel like discussing it further.

In all your examples, the girl knew her boyfriend in real life and knew that the person(s) who wanted to have sex with her were different people. They also seemed to enjoy the whole thing as a prank. The examples all sound horrible and I would view them as rape no question.

I may be getting the story wrong, but from I understood of your description, the victim, girl A lets say, didn't know the person she wanted to have sex with except through the internet. And "the boy" was actually her girl friend, girl B. She consented to whom she thought was a boy but was actually a girl. The same person, different gender. So it's really more like consenting to sex with your boyfriend and finding out he was actually a girl - or or a wider generalization - like consenting to sex with a person who had told you they were slim and tall and then finding out after the fact that they were large and short.

I'm a bit stuck on the fact that this girl agreed to be blindfolded and have sex with someone she didn't even know (except on the internet). People lie all the time in their descriptions. I guess the key is that she trusted her friend's assessment that he was a nice guy. Maybe it made her mad especially in that sense, that she had trusted her friend and felt betrayed.

Date: 2015-09-19 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
I think there's zero doubt that the victim was an idiot, but I still think that agreeing to have sex with a man she didn't really know, doesn't mean she consented to having sex with a woman she did know.

It'll be interesting to see what the jury thinks in the end. xx

Date: 2015-09-20 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supernutjapan.livejournal.com
Oh definitely. It was wrong. I'd say she'd have a better chance with a fraud charge though :P

Date: 2015-09-09 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milly-gal.livejournal.com
Mother of GOD! The entire world is INSANE! How is that OKAY? xx

Date: 2015-09-09 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
Right! And it's not okay...very very not okay! How in the hell did she think she was gonna get away with it?! It's just so weird, the whole thing is just...I don't even know.

I hope she goes to jail though. Rape is rape. You can't deceive someone like that. It just awful xx

Date: 2015-09-09 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milly-gal.livejournal.com
If someone hasn't given *you* permission, it's rape! Simple as! It's just WRONG! Tell the woman you like her, don't pretend to be someone else and then sneak in when she's vulnerable! *shudders* it's maybe a little more disturbing because it's a lass that's done it, which sounds awful, but women are meant to be empathetic to this kind of thing. Wrongness! xx

Date: 2015-09-09 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
I think it's a cultural thing that makes it really hard to get convictions when women are rapists, esp if the victim is a man. We still have this underlying idea that women are fragile and coy and aren't sexually motivated. I'm glad they went ahead and prosecuted her instead of playing it down.

I wonder if it was just one of those things that started off as a bit of a joke but got completely out of hand. The whole world is making my head hurt right now! xx

Date: 2015-09-09 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milly-gal.livejournal.com
That's entirely possible, and if that's the case, I feel sorry for all involved, but that's still no excuse to take a person's choice from them, in whatever guise!

the world hurts my head regularly.

I come from a background where spousal violence was prevalent and it's no excuse no matter the gender! The only time you should ever 'smack' someone is in defence of yourself. Women are just as capable of being a aggressor in that situation and it bugs the crap out of me that no one seems to be held accountable. And if the man defends himself, he gets prosecuted.

Thank the whoever we're passed the days where women were considered chattel and a man's property...

xx

Date: 2015-09-09 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
Only just though...I remember when spousal rape was made illegal...in the eighties! Unbelievable that people thought it was just fine for that to happen not so long ago.

People are so weird xx

Date: 2015-09-10 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thursdaysisters.livejournal.com
#MasqueradePrompt

Date: 2015-09-19 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexisjane.livejournal.com
*whispers* I wasn't gonna say it, but yeah ; ) xx

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